if i were to edit a zine or anthology - the long list

John Klima's series of articles about starting your own zine got me thinking. Not about actually starting one, because I think I would entirely unsuited to being the overall creator (and I don't have the capital), but about what my dream list would be if I was the editor of a zine or even an anthology. I think I'd be happier as an anthology editor.

Anyway.

Here is my Long List for authors who I would consider for inclusion into my unthemed zine. The only requirement is that they must have actually written and published short fiction. Preferably in the SFF genre, but I'm willing to give some non-genre authors a shot at my hypothetical unthemed speculative zine. Oh, and they should still be alive, otherwise how on earth would they write me a new story? It would also help if I'm familiar with their work (sorry Maureen McHugh). I would pay extremely well, of course, if I had such a zine and the financing.


The Long List:
Stephen King
Mary Robinette Kowal
Rachel Swirsky
John Scalzi
Cat Rambo
Jeff Vandermeer
Joe R. Lansdale
Lucius Shepard
Jay Lake
Mike Resnick
Bruce McAllister
Tim Pratt
Robert Reed
William Shunn
Neil Gaiman
Jhumpa Lahiri
Nell Freudenberger
Joe Hill
Carrie Vaughn
A. B. Goelman
Lori Selke
Alan DeNiro
Elizabeth Bear
Genevieve Valentine
Nicholas Seeley
Charles Stross
Jeffrey Ford
Tobias Buckell
Chris Roberson
George R. R. Martin
Anne McCaffrey
Kelly Link
Connie Willis
Cory Doctorow
Karen Traviss
Kage Baker
Margaret Atwood
Louise Erdrich
Ted Chiang
William Browning Spencer


I am quite sure I'm missing a goodly number of writers, but unless I come up with someone else to add to the list, this is what I'm going to use to pare down the Long List to the Short List. I reserve the right to add an author to the Short List who is not on this Long List.

Aha! World Fantasy Shorts

I spent another ten minutes poking around for World Fantasy Awards short stories and novellas tonight.

I found them all.

I have been able to locate a copy of everything except:
"The Lineaments of Gratified Desire", Ysabeau S. Wilce (F&SF Jul 2006) - Novella
"Journey Into the Kingdom", M. Rickert (F&SF May 2006) - Short Fiction
"Another Word for Map is Faith", Christopher Rowe (F&SF Aug 2006) - Short Fiction

Wanna guess where they are?

The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror 2007, edited by Kelly Link, Ellen Datlow, and Gavin Grant. The picture was a little bit of a giveaway, huh?

Also included are the following nominated stories:
"A Siege of Cranes", Benjamin Rosenbaum (Twenty Epics, All-Star Stories)
"Pol Pot's Beautiful Daughter (Fantasy)", Geoff Ryman (F&SF Oct/Nov 2006)

Hopefully I'll be able to get to them all before the Awards, but if not it'll be shortly after. I'm really glad the Fantasy and Science Fiction stories are all collected in one place since they are not available online. Makes it easier.

Short Fiction and the Changing of the Guard

Alright. I have seen a variety of different Conversations of the Month ripping their way through the SFF message boards and websites and blogs which I read on a semi-regular basis. The first one which I remember had to do with the ratio of females to males in short fiction, then it went on to race, then to a Changing of the Guard where hot new novelists are supplanting the Hot Old Novelists, and then more race, and finally short fiction is dying. And race.

I see most of the same faces having these discussions, but that is because I go to the same places. Often there is a link or several to others who are engaging the conversation, sometimes to the person who really originated the current version of the conversation. Frequently I don’t bother clicking those links. Why? Honestly, because I do not have the time to spend online truly engaging the conversations and seeing what all is said.

With that said, just as I was seriously thinking of engaging the Short Fiction and Changing of the Guard conversations I’m not sure I need to. Andrew Wheeler (formerly editor of the SFBC) just pimp slapped the Changing of the Guard conversation down. John Klima, editor of Electric Velocipede, wrangled some good thoughts out on Short Fiction Dying and since he is all up in the middle of the short fiction market (being an editor of a semi-pro zine and all).

The one conversation I have spent the most time thinking about was The Changing of the Guard. As I mentioned, Wheeler pretty well killed that one for me. Patrick St. Denis over at Pat's Fantasy Hotlist discussed the Changing of the Guard in reference to Robert Jordan and Terry Goodkind supplanting the early 80's Guard of Terry Brooks and David Eddings, and wondering who the new Guard would be. Pat mentioned Steven Erikson and Scott Lynch as possibilities with Lynch as the strongest possibility in terms of sales. I believe this was all started by the A Dribble of Ink blog. Now, what I thought when I read Pat's post was that Terry Brooks hasn't gone anywhere. He's still selling as well as he ever had and continues to hit the NY Times Bestsellers list on a regular basis (yearly, I suppose) with each new book. I wasn't sure about Eddings simply because I thought The Dreamers blew chunks.

So Andrew Wheeler chimes in and just kills the whole thing for me. First, he mentions that the sales haven't slipped for Brooks OR Eddings, but also that Jordan and Goodkind are so far above the rest of the pack in terms of sales that neither author is going to be giving up their spot on the Guard any time soon. Further, Wheeler mentioned that both Jordan and Goodkind took several volumes to really come into their own in terms of sales. Something that Lynch has yet to do as he has only published one book. But where Wheeler really split with the conversation is that Pat and others, myself included, are looking for the new guard of fresh authors and Wheeler pointed out that the New Guard may not be from Epic Fantasy. It's paranormal romance type novels with Laurell K. Hamilton taking the lead.

And snap.

What I really wonder is if the Changing of the Guard conversation isn't a bit pointless. What I mean by this is are we measuring the Guard by Sales or by Taste? If by Taste, then by all means let's see who the New Guard is and who the fresh new authors are. Shoot, I LOVED The Lies of Locke Lamora and overall I am very impressed with The Malazan Book of the Fallen. In the last couple of years I have also discovered Octavia Butler, Carrie Vaughn, Glen Cook, John Scalzi, Mike Resnick, Stephen King (!!), Joe R. Lansdale, Lucius Shepard, Kage Baker, Karen Traviss, Brandon Sanderson, Peter F. Hamilton, Audrey Niffenegger, and Charles Stross.

Of these authors the Fresh (or New Guard) are: Vaughn, Scalzi, Traviss, Sanderson, and Niffenegger.

For me, any author I discover is New and Fresh, even if am discovering an author like Stephen King who has published eleventy billion novels and several works of nonfiction. He's new to ME. And right now, Glen Cook's Black Company series is one of the best things I'm reading. Steven Erikson may have taken fantasy tropes in so many different directions and created the legendary Bridgeburners...but I swear he cribbed them from Glen Cook and I think Cook tells a better story. Or maybe just a different one.

Other than the fact that it allows authors I like to earn a living and keep publishing novels, I'm not too interested in Sales. Jo Rowling sold 8 million copies in 24 hours? Great! Does that make Rowling the New Guard or does she just have her own Castle?

Don’t get me wrong, I want John Scalzi and Scott Lynch and Brandon Sanderson to sell like hot cakes (or better than hot cakes, even, sell like cheeseburgers!), but the only Guard I really recognize is the one I’m reading right now. When you publish often and with quality and tell stories that I want to read, you're the new Guard. For a time that was Robert Jordan and Terry Brooks and Raymond Feist. Right now, they're my Old Guard who I continue to read when they get around to publishing a new book. Today I'm reading what I'm reading. Novellas by Shepard and Lansdale. Novels by Vaughn and Traviss. Stuff that excites me.


What about the whole Short Fiction is Dying thing?

I think people are decrying two things:

First, comparing pay rates for short fiction in today’s dollars versus thirty years ago, short fiction pays less now than it ever did (same with genre novels, to be honest). So, it doesn't pay for John Scalzi to write short fiction. If it did, he would. I'll buy that argument.

Second, sales of the major magazines are waaaaay down. Nobody is reading Short Fiction, Nobody Cares! Waaaaah! Hmpf.

I think the second statement is both true and false. Yeah, sales are down in fiction magazines. One: There is a stupidly large number of magazines out there and if I'm going to shell out my money I want to KNOW I'm getting something good. Nay, I want to know I'm getting something GREAT! Two: I don't feel like I'm missing much by not subscribing to Asimov's. I can get excellent fiction for FREE online from reputable markets and since I'm not in the middle of an online conversation about Short Fiction, it is difficult to get recommendations...and even if I could get a recommendation, if I'm not already subscribing and there is no free content online, I'll never get to read the story anyway and I’ll just read my novel. But, I think plenty of people are reading short fiction...but with the proliferation of online zines and print semi-pro zines for cheaper rates than the Big Three, numbers overall are probably down but plenty of readers are out there.

But, go see what John Klima has to say.


Some links to the conversations (not meant to be exhaustive)

Race:
Neth Space
David Anthony Durham
Durham Interview
The Fantasy Review
Westeros
Wotmania
Pat's Fantasy Hotlist


Short Fiction:
John Klima
Tobias Buckell
SF Signal
SF Diplomat
Velcro City
Torque Control
(other links are contained within these links)

Changing of the Guard:
Pat's Fantasy Hotlist
Andrew Wheeler
A Dribble of Ink
OF Blog of the Fallen